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Q & A

Question:

Based on your February 12th article, what's the point of recommending dividend growth stocks if you're just going to recommend selling them once they appreciate by 10%?
In the case of MATW, you're recommending it at a higher price than where you previously recommended selling it. If you just would've held on to it, your position would be worth more and you wouldn't have interrupted your dividend stream.

Answer:

Companies that have a history of dividend increases transmit far more than just the ability to compound income. The purpose of recommending Dividend Achievers is because we believe that companies with a continuous history of dividend increases proves that they are “quality” companies. What is left for us to determine is at what price are we going to acquire quality companies.
As aptly stated by the great Dow Theorist Richard Russell, “Let's say you are compounding your assets (reinvesting your dividends and interest) beautifully until a full-fledged primary bear market comes along (1973-74 and again in 2008). Within a year or two your assets are cut in half, and all your compounding has gone to waste.” (Dow Theory Letters. July 24, 2009. Daily Commentaries. Paragraph 3.) Richard Russell makes this commentary despite his most famous article on the concept of compounding titled “Rich Man, Poor Man: The Power of Compounding.” For this reason, the possibility of compounding a stock’s income is only a last resort if we happen to be wrong about the direction of the stock price after the purchase has been made. Again, we only want to be wrong with “quality” companies since holding on for the long-term is all the more easier with a steady growing dividend.
In the case of MATW, the yield on the stock leaves a lot to be desired in terms of compounding at just 0.90%. In addition, knowing that the historical annual return on stocks, adjusted for inflation, has not exceeded 10% in any 30-year period means that 10% or more in four months should be acknowledged as an exceptional return. Because we don’t ascribe to the mantra of diversification (see our article “Diversification: It Really Doesn’t Matter”), our investments tend to be concentrated enough to justify the transactional costs that we’d incur to get in and out of a stock.
On our website, we clearly point out that only stocks with a designation of “Investment Observation” are companies that we feel strongly about the prospects. The reiteration of Matthews Corp. (MATW) was for the purpose of alerting interested parties to put the company through their own research regiment as the price declines.
For our August 4, 2009 sell recommendation of MATW, we indicated that, “selling this stock now also generates a return 11 times greater than the amount of the dividend yield if the stock was held for a whole year.” We consider the fact that your return on investment should demonstrate the capacity to exceed what would be received if held for a full year. We also compare the performance of the stock against what would have been received if the same funds were held in 30-year Treasuries or guaranteed investment vehicles.
Although our approach is for the purpose of trading stocks, we don’t take the idea lightly. In the description of our site we state clearly, “this website is intended to give new insights on a low risk approach to trading in dividend paying stocks for tax deferred accounts with the ability to buy and sell individual stocks. This website is not intended for regular or non-qualifying accounts however, the strategies and stocks mentioned can be used for non-qualifying accounts with the understanding of the consequences of potential short-term capital gains as well as the need for exceptional documentation for IRS purposes.”

I hope this give a little more insight about our approach. Thanks again for a great question.

-Touc

Reader Q & A

Question:
How do you determine that a stock price is undervalued?

Answer:
Because there are many ways to answer your question, I will first refer you to the standard responses to your questions. Please follow the link to Wikipedia's response to the question of when a stock is undervalued.
Our view at New Low Observer on undervaluation is that, after selecting companies that have a proven track record of dividend increases over many years, stocks are likelier to be fairly valued or undervalued as the price falls to a new 1 year low. Although this seems obvious, most investors are unwilling to investigate a stock that has a falling price history for fear of a continuation of the trend. The prevailing view is, "I will wait until the price starts moving up before investing in company X."

Our experience has been that, provided the company has a history of dividend payments (something that cannot be manipulated through accounting methods) and all other financials attributes being in order, the company is put on a list to be acquired at the earliest opportunity. A great book that summarizes our general approach is "Dividends Don't Lie" by Geraldine Weiss and the upcoming book "Dividends Still Don't Lie" by Kelly Wright. In these books the main idea is that quality stock tend to trade in a price range based on the dividend yield.

Question:

How do you define P/E ratio? What does it indicate?

Answer:
In addressing your question, I would refer you to Investopedia's response to what P/E means. The idea of price-earnings (P/E) ratios is pretty straightforward. However, we use the P/E ratio as a means to compare to the relative history of the stock in question. Some people like to compare the P/E ratio to the stock market indexes like the S&P 500 or Russell 2000 Index. A P/E above the indexes would signal that the stock might be overpriced, a P/E below the indexes might mean the stock is underpriced. However, we try to identify what the historical range for the stock is as compared to itself and not the index. If it is a quality company, there may exist a pattern of falling and rising price based on the historical tendency of the P/E ratio.

Question:

What does the one year low indicate?

Answer:
The new low of a company's price indicates that the stock in question needs to be examined for potential purchase. This is in stark contrast to recommending a stock that has increased in price by 30% to 50%. Just like shopping for clothes, food, or a computer, we gravitate towards lower prices and careful consideration of what we buy. We operate on the mantra of caveat emptor or buyer beware.

I hope the above explanations have peaked your interest in the basics of investing. Much of what we have pointed out about considering the purchase of stocks is rooted in being reluctant participants of a consumer society. However, we have transferred the same skills as consumers of liabilities to the acquisition of assets. I hope you have time to read the book "Dividends Don't Lie" through your local library (save some money) until the new book comes out next year. Touc.

Dow Theory

When it comes to Dow Theory, we have to carefully monitor the market to see if we get a clear sign of a non-confirmation of the trend. A non-confirmation of the trend can take place in many ways and is most prominent when one index goes up while the other goes down. Anyone interested in Dow Theory must be vigilant for signals that might indicate that a reversal of the primary or secondary trend is in the offing.

On Friday August 21, 2009, the Dow Jones Industrial Average (^DJI) exceeded the prior high of 9398.19 set on Wednesday August 12th. Unfortunately, the Dow Jones Transportation Index (^DJT) are lagging in the ability to exceed the high of 3774.12 set on Thursday August 13th. The only thing that favors the Transports in this instance is the fact that on a percentage basis the Transports rose 2.58% versus the Industrials 1.67% increase. This indicates that there is relatively strong interest in the Transports. Hopefully this enthusiasm will spill over into today's trading.

If the Transports do not break above the August 13th high then we might be on track for a non-confirmation. A non-confirmation means that the recent upward trend in the market will be coming to an end soon. Conversely, if the Transports break the indicated high while the Industrials move moderately higher then we could be in good shape for the short term.

Dow Theory Q & A

Q.When looking at a chart with weekly Dow prices, how is the weekly price calculated? Is it the Friday close or is it an average of the whole weeks close?

A. In all my readings of Dow Theory, I cannot remember anyone suggesting the use of weekly data for analysis. This doesn't mean that weekly data isn't useful, you might see a consistent pattern that I would otherwise overlook. Dow Theory is supposed to be calculated by using the closing price for both indices on a daily basis. I have bastardized Dow Theory by taking the high and low price of a given period as a way to get a sense of herd mentality or market psychology. This is in contrast to taking only the closing price.

Depending on the source, weekly data is calculated using the opening price from the open on Monday, the high and low price is from whichever days in the week that had either number and the closing price from the Friday close. An average of the week isn't how the weekly closing price is calculated. Touc.


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Q & A

Q: Do you really think we get through this crisis without ever having an undervalued market?

A: First, the crisis is past us and now we're faced with sorting through the wreckage which is more painful than the actual crisis itself. The general public now has the taste of bitterness necessary to feel that maybe there is a difference between saving and investing or the distinction between investing and speculating. The public now knows, by force of nature, that a home is a place where you live and not an investment. These realities, which faded after the Dow first hit 10,000, are in the recesses of the collective subconscious. While the lessons will be quickly forgotten, reminders will reappear in stark contrast to the hopes of the ever optimistic public.

In many of my postings and in the right hand column of my site you'll see that I expect this to be a bear market for at least the next 7 to 9 years. My 2016 date (based on cycle analysis) is the approximate year that I expect that either the market will hit its ultimate low or the point when valuations are expected to be at the most extreme low levels. Even after the year 2016 I do not expect the market to immediately go to new highs. Instead I expect that the market will meander for another 6-8 years before exceeding the previous high for good.

Within the context of a secular bear market there will be cyclical bull markets or bear market rallies. Great examples of the kind of market action that I expect are years from 1906-1924 or 1966-1982. Remember, a secular bull market has the ability to exceed the previous market high by at least 16.5%.

We will see a period when valuation are at historical low levels. Unfortunately, it will be very difficult to convince the retail investor that buying stocks en mass is the right thing to do. As an example, 1982 was a great year to buy stocks but with treasuries yielding 12% there was no way to convince the public that the Dow with a yield of 5.5% was worth it. Guaranteed money at 10-12% versus stocks at 5% seemed like a no-brainer.

Q: Do corporate earnings just recover from here while the market moves sideways to allow P/E and dividend yields to catch up?

A: I believe that we'll see earnings remain flat as corporations continue to cut costs but the shocker will be that we'll see earnings. The problem will be that corporations will cut costs too much which will lead to a general rise in prices and an increase in the value of corporate assets. Chapter 2 of the book Dow 3000 by Thomas Blamer and Richard Shulman clearly explains what most investors forget at the end of a bear market. Essentially, companies will become more valuable even though the stock price and earnings don't go anywhere.

 

 

"Men, it has been well said, think in herds; it will be seen that they go mad in herds, while they only recover their senses slowly, and one by one."

 

 

Mackay, Charles. Extraordinary Popular Delusions and the Madness of Crowds. preface. 1852.